In Defense of Mr. Rove . . .

I’m including two links:

First, the Byron York piece, which is based on interview material with Rove’s lawyer.

Second, Rich Galen’s short essay (link should work for about a week, then check Galen’s archive for 7-15-05) for his inside baseball politics list. Galen’s essay captures my own feelings of how things will likely go. I think the White House hangs tough and the tempest is over by August.

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11 thoughts on “In Defense of Mr. Rove . . .

  1. Does that mean that you think despite the president’s assurances that he’d fire anyone in his administration who had leaked her cover that Rove shouldn’t be fired?

    That you are furthermore willing to accept that when the president called on the people in his administration to fess up if they had been involved, and Rove didn’t, that this was just an acceptable bit of pantomime by the administration? Meant to amuse the credulous but not actually a presidential directive?

  2. Or that the compromising of an intelligence operation meant to prevent the spread of WMD (the real ones, not the stuff Chalabi made up) is a perfectly viable political tactic even though it does sort of undermine national security?

  3. “Does that mean that you think despite the president’s assurances that he’d fire anyone in his administration who had leaked her cover that Rove shouldn’t be fired?”

    Um, I hate to confess I heard it on Limbaugh, since he’s anathema to our friends on the left, but I must credit the source.

    Mr. Tlatoc’s indirect quote is not of Bush’s but of Harry Reid’s misrepresentation of it. Bush said that an illegal leaker would be taken care of, as in exposed to and not shielded from the legal process.

    Dang them partisan talking points. Sloppy and unreliable.

    Nihil desperandum, my righty friends. Rove broke no law, he stood up for his guy ala Lanny Davis (whom I admire) against an unscrupulous attack from a guy who would spout off/exaggerate because needed a job. He sold a few books, and oh, yeah, got yet another unpaid gig for a few months.

    (I figger if I’m going to break my own rules, I’ll quote Coulter, too. Disprove her if you can, my BDS friends.)

    If Ms. Plame had reason to be concerned about repercussions for her CIA contacts, she wouldn’t have done a photo spread for Vanity Fair. Her photo distributed worldwide would be far more harmful than Rove’s oblique reference. But as noted elsewhere on TRC, she didn’t exactly drive an Aston Martin with rear mounted dual water cannons.

    If she were as hot as our press is making her out to be, she should be shot along with Rove. But she wasn’t, and it’ll come out. She wasn’t a spook, she was a well-known functionary, and her husband used her access to try to get himself back in the game.

    (To Miz H—I believe this post illustrates that Blogger Comments accepts copious HTML links. Shoot a note if you need a leg up. You are obviously a thorough person, and only a heel would doubt your provenances. Still, that’s the world in which we live.)

  4. Tlaloc, the stories I’ve read don’t demonstrate the kind of airtight case you’ve been pushing. It looks, dare I say it, much more nuanced.

    It also doesn’t seem clear that Rove has ever not “fessed up” as you say. According to his lawyer he has been completely open throughout the process.

  5. Drudge Report

    No, there’s nothing pertinent at Drudge Report. (Although McCain Stars in Boob Raunch Fest reminds one of the glory days of Matt, before he got all serious and wonky). I’m just testing the theory that I can overcome my disability and code html by hand.

  6. “Um, I hate to confess I heard it on Limbaugh, since he’s anathema to our friends on the left, but I must credit the source.”

    And you believed him? The man is an inveterate liar.

    “Mr. Tlatoc’s indirect quote is not of Bush’s but of Harry Reid’s misrepresentation of it.”

    No it’s not in the slightest. On at least one occassion Bush himself said anyone who leaked classified information would be fired and any number of times McClellan (Bush’s spokesman and hence able to speak on his behalf) has said it. It’s in the record. Limbaugh can lie to the credulous but it’s still there in black and white.

    “If Ms. Plame had reason to be concerned about repercussions for her CIA contacts, she wouldn’t have done a photo spread for Vanity Fair. Her photo distributed worldwide would be far more harmful than Rove’s oblique reference.”

    Coulter is stupid as well as an inveterate liar. Did the Vanity Fair magazine photoshoot list her as a CIA operative? No? Oh well that’s kind of an entirely different thing. She was undercover not underground.

    “She wasn’t a spook, she was a well-known functionary, and her husband used her access to try to get himself back in the game.”

    She’s wrong again, according to the CIA she was indeed a NOC operative and not a desk jockey. But who are you going to believe? The CIA who got burned or Coulter’s house of spin?

  7. “Tlaloc, the stories I’ve read don’t demonstrate the kind of airtight case you’ve been pushing. It looks, dare I say it, much more nuanced.”

    The criminal case is very much up in the air, the ethical case however is pretty much air tight.

    “It also doesn’t seem clear that Rove has ever not “fessed up” as you say. According to his lawyer he has been completely open throughout the process.”

    Hunter, PUH-LEAZE! Fess up doesn’t mean tell your lawyer the truth, it means admit openly, in public. That’s what the President directed everyone in his administration to do if they had any part in this and Rove very clearly didn’t. He could have annouced at any point that he passed the name to Cooper, instead he didn’t.

  8. regarding Limbaughs claim see here:

    “Q: Given recent developments in the CIA leak case, particularly Vice President [Dick] Cheney’s discussions with the investigators, do you still stand by what you said several months ago, a suggestion that it might be difficult to identify anybody who leaked the agent’s name?

    BUSH: That’s up to —

    Q: And, and, do you stand by your pledge to fire anyone found to have done so?

    BUSH: Yes. And that’s up to the U.S. attorney to find the facts.”
    http://www.state.gov/e/eb/rls/rm/33463.htm
    (June 4th 2004 press conference)

    Is that settled now? Bush said he’d fire anyone who had leaked classified information, and Limbaugh is a liar. Everyone clear on both points?

  9. “Did the Vanity Fair magazine photoshoot list her as a CIA operative? No?”

    Damn, posted too fast. Yes they did identify her as a CIA operative but since this was the year after Rove outed her it hardly matters. The secret was out of the bag. So Coulter is still wrong but not for the reason I originally said.

  10. It’s distressing that so many Nixon-era kids, like Rich Galen, fall back so easily on Nixonian denials for crimes committed on their side.

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