Hunter Baker, J.D., Ph.D.

Posts Tagged ‘resurrection’

Facebook Conversation with an Old High School Classmate

In Uncategorized on 09/19/2008 at 4:24 am
From John, with whom I’ve not spoken in at least twenty years:
Thanks for reaching out! Looks like things are going super great for you and your family out there in Houston! I’m glad you like the music too! :-)

I read your blog about the reunion and your faith — good read! Yes… reunions… a middle age (pre-middle age?) rite of passage or milestone. One that I don’t mind missing. Though I’m glad it happened. Makes me realize the paradox of how people don’t change and yet how people do change. How’s that for vague, cloudy relativism!?!

Not to start a theological discussion, but you mentioned us probably operating under different philosophies. I suppose on some level we do. Your blog made me think of an inconsequential “e-conversation” I participated in on Facebook several weeks ago. Read it if you’re ever TRULY bored:

http://hitrecordandplay.blogspot.com/2008/09/facebook-conversation-about.html

Hope you’re happy and healthy and in the wheelhouse my friend,

John

September 12 at 4:55pm
I’ll check it out and don’t worry, I pretty much enjoy talking about religion, politics, any of it. You can’t get do much graduate work in those areas if you’re thin-skinned.

I had no idea in high school that you were a musician. It sounds like you’ve actually managed to make a career of it, which I know is a serious accomplishment. I’m a writer and have published many magazine pieces and have a book contract, but I’m still very far from being able to make a living at it.

September 12 at 5:00pm
John, I checked out the conversation. You seem pretty open, which is extremely refreshing. I do tend to embrace the Christian anthropology, the idea that there is something missing, that we are somehow fatally flawed. I feel it in the moments when I have thoughts I’d never admit to another human being except MAYBE my wife. I feel the selfishness, the pettiness inside me. I know I have to struggle to even think of being noble and loving.

But the “you have a God-shaped hole” stuff was never what convinced me. I’m one of these guys who essentially became convinced of the resurrection of Christ. If you think that really happened, then the rest is how you react to that, not what you think of Christian theology. That’s where I am.

September 12 at 5:02pm
Sorry to go on, but I keep thinking of other things. I don’t hold to the faith regardless. I do think Paul was right when he said if this isn’t true, then we are to be pitied. If I stopped believing it, I’d be right out of the game. Goodbye church, hello NY Times.
September 14 at 1:07pm
Thanks for the thoughtful response, Hunter.
September 14 at 4:27pm
Be well, sir. Write any time.

Pensacola, the 1980’s, and Fundamentalism

In Uncategorized on 09/10/2008 at 11:01 pm

My 20th high school reunion was held in Pensacola this summer.  The class of ‘88 from Booker T. Washington high school met to share memories and update each other about their lives.  I wasn’t there.  I agreed to a mini-reunion a few months earlier with some of my best friends.  We went to Chicago, ate expensive steaks, walked the streets, took the train, and watched some sports.  It was a good time.  But if I could go back, I’d go to my reunion instead.

There have been a flood of pictures, facebook connections, and renewed contacts thanks to the group from our class that did make the choice to re-connect.  I realize now that my memories of that group have faded.  I wish I could have heard some of them speak, looked at the receding hairlines, observed the wrinkles, found out who achieved their promise, and who is still looking.  Maybe part of why I wish I had gone is because I am no longer a wanderer.  After obtaining four degrees, including a Ph.D. and a J.D., I have finally settled down at a university and have a book contract.  I would have been able to say something about myself rather than being a bewildered thirtysomething, which I was.

I’m burying the lead (or lede as the journalists say).  One thing that has struck me in looking at facebook pages from my high school peers is that many of them seem to remember Pensacola as a hotbed of fundamentalist Christianity.  More than one seem to define their lives in some degree as a reaction against that.

I’m fascinated.  I wonder whether I was just too caught up in other things to notice at that age.  My parents were from different denominational backgrounds and I just wasn’t interested in Christianity.  Today, Christianity is my passion and massively important to me as a scholar.  But back then, it was noise.  I didn’t hear it.  Not really.  I was more concerned with getting a girlfriend or college football or David Letterman.  I wasn’t leading the examined life in any way.  Just trying to have some fun, go to college somewhere, and not mar my PERMANENT RECORD.  Yes, I was a big believer in that.  Not worried about God so much as a paper file that would follow me throughout my life.

If I had any kind of feeling about Pensacola, it was that it was a Navy town.  I remember the handsome guys with short hair driving up to pick up their girlfriends (our girls!!!) in convertibles.  I remember the Blue Angels and the push for young guys like me to consider Naval employment.  I remember the radio stations.  TK 101.5 and WABB.  The way the cool kids were all listening to U2 just ahead of the curve,  REM a little further ahead of it, and the Smiths and the Cure way ahead of it.

But if I push a little harder, I can recall the street preacher standing at the corner across from Albertson’s where I had a summer job as a bag boy.  I can remember him warning of hell and damnation.  Can remember his emphasis on the need for JEEEEEEEEEE-SSUSSS!  At the time, it just annoyed me.  Just kind of embarrassed me.  I understand why some Christians refer to the scandal of the gospel.  It seemed kind of scandalous.  This guy was telling us that we aren’t good enough and that something is wrong with us.

The strange thing is that I’ve come to agree with him.  The style and tone is different, but I do think we all have the something wrong.  That unresolved something.  And I do believe that a man was born who changed everything with his life, death, and resurrection.  I believe there is evidence for it.  Is it a slam dunk?  Is it an unavoidable belief?  No.  But the great philosopher Alvin Plantinga is right when he says that it is warranted.

Letter to a Friend about New Atheist Sam Harris and Doubts about the Faith

In Uncategorized on 08/30/2008 at 1:59 am

[Name withheld],

I started looking through the stuff you copied for me. One thing jumped out right away from [Sam] Harris. I had forgotten this quote:

“I no more believe in Zeus, Isis, Thor, and the thousands of other dead gods that lie buried in the mass grave we call ‘mythology.’ I doubt them all equally and for the same reason: lack of evidence.”

This is one of the most absurd statements I have ever seen. I promise you that I am open and susceptible to counterarguments about Christianity, but this one is utterly ridiculous. To say that there is some equivalence between, for example, Christ and Thor is to reveal incredible illiteracy about history and religion. Sam Harris is not qualified to write on the topic, especially not with the degree of certitude he claims. It is as though I started a conversation with someone who told me he was quite certain the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor. I’d be suspicious of anything else he said.

The simple fact is that there is evidence, substantial evidence of the claims about Christ. Far more than for Zeus, Isis, etc. If Sam Harris thinks otherwise, it is because he entered the subject with his mind made up and thinking he had no need to perform research.

On the other hand, the bits you highlighted about the tragedy of being insecure in faith and doubt and faith not being at war make a lot of sense to me. The only people without a doubt would be the ones who participated with the Israelites in the amazing acts of God or the early Christians who actually saw the risen Christ. I have become a believer in Christ because I think the Christian faith, both historically and personally, offers the best explanation for why the world is the way it is and why we are as we are. I hope it is true. I can say with little difficulty that it is substantially more likely than the alternatives. I suspect it is Christ or nothing. And I find it very hard to believe in nothing. It wouldn’t explain anything about creation, would it?

Thanks for the article. I enjoyed the interaction between Warren and Harris. Anything you want to talk about (or email about), please let me know. I enjoy talking about this stuff.

Hunter